Plus, Bob is going to giveaway 3 books to 3 people who comment on this post. A great way to check out a new author if you haven't read his books.
Welcome Bob, and thanks for your generosity in giving away three books.
Beverley asked me to talk about heroes. They
are definitely a Good Thing in a story, and so are villains, but neither are necessary. My science fiction novel Sleeper, Awake [ http://bobswriting.com/sleeper.html ] doesn’t have any villains at all. It is full of conflict, and misunderstandings, and strife, but we can see that everyone is well-intentioned from within their own frame of reference. There are two heroes, but you don’t find out who they are until the last few paragraphs (it is cheating to peek ahead).
I didn’t plan it that way -- this was what revealed itself to me. Mind you, there are many other hidden heroes. The best one is Sam in Tolkien’s Ring Trilogy. People take Frodo to be the hero. After all, he is the Ring Bearer, and all the baddies attack him, and all the goodies support him, but... but everything he achieves is thanks to Sam. When Frodo collapses, Sam looks after him. When Frodo loses hope, Sam gets him to keep going. Always in the background, always self-effacing, he is the person who makes it all possible.
This
also happens in real life. Edmund Hillary is everyone’s hero of Everest, but
Tenzing Norgay is at least his equal.
Certainly,
most of my favorite books are clearly focused on a hero. This includes The Belgariad by David Eddings. It is
all about Garion, a somewhat bumbling boy bred over many generations to be the
one who is destined to duel with a god. I have also read every book Dick
Francis has written. Each has a hero who appears to be an ordinary man at the
beginning of the story, but in reaction to terrible circumstances, he achieves
extraordinary things. The underlying message is that we all have heroism within
us.
We
can use them for boosting a tiny ego, as in Walter Mitty, who imagined himself
in every role he came across as a larger-than-life heroic figure, or, at the
other extreme, we can be inspired to change our lives and become better people
because we wish to be like that person in the story. In my work as a
psychotherapist, I have come across many instances of a fictional person being
a positive influence in someone’s life.
Personally,
I’ve used a hero in a variation of this. There is a psychological technique
I’ve often used with my clients: “Write a film script in which the hero has
experienced your life, and lives in your circumstances. Only, have this person
behave in the way you wish you could.” We encourage the client to make the film
script as concrete, detailed and vivid as possible. Then, of course, we ask the
client to step into the role, and ACT it. Well, I don’t write film scripts but
novels, so that’s what I did for myself. My novel Ascending Spiral [ http://bobswriting.com/ascending.html
] is the story of Pip, including several of his past lives. Actually, all of
Pip’s experiences are from my life. His history and circumstances are mine.
I’ve made enough changes to protect the guilty, but otherwise Pip is my
doppelganger. Only, he handles everything in the way I wish I had. He is the
hero I aspire to be, as a self-therapy. This includes the past lives: an Irish
boy in Viking times; an Irish peasant caught up in the rebellion of 1798, and
then transported to New South Wales to be a slave; a cultured, sensitive young
woman in Victorian times who marries a monster; a person with completely
different anatomy and physiology on a faraway planet somewhere; a Space Flower
who lives in the space around a star and can move from one star to another; and
a Jewish boy born in Hungary while the bombs were falling, who comes to
Australia to become a psychologist.
The
point of the book is to make a difference in the lives of my readers. As an
excellent by-product, it has made a difference in my life.
Beverley
has asked me if a story can have more than one hero.
Yes.
My novel Hit and Run [ http://bobswriting.com/hitandrun.html
] is only waiting for a cover before being published. Incidentally, while we
are waiting, I am happy to send out free advance review copies to anyone who
asks. Link is at my website. Of course, the payment is a review. The two major
characters in the story are completely different. Sylvia is an 84 year old lady
whose body is full of pain, and who has a lot of self-doubt, but she earns
everyone’s admiration while doing her best to save a multiple murderer from
himself and from a society which has only one reaction to crime: punishment. I
wish I could be like Sylvia, and every reader’s response so far has been the
same. She is an admirable hero who indeed could influence you to change your
life.
The
other hero is the multiple murderer, the delinquent from the slums. His abuse
started at birth, when his mother named him Chuck (because she’d vomited lots
during the pregnancy). It never stopped. He hated the world, hated everyone
except his little brother, so at fourteen years of age he set out to kill as
many people as possible. He succeeded in murdering seven little children and
the crossing supervisor, barely missing old Sylvia. He is a hero for two
reasons: while Sylvia is the narrator, Charlie is the focus of the story. And
his progress is something people don’t believe possible, but is realistic. I
have worked with clients who turned away from crime and violence and became
decent people, invariably because they identified with a major figure in their lives.
There is research to support the validity of this concept. So, if you get to
understand and like Charlie, your attitude to the baddies of your life may
change, making you into a better person. I’ve said, that’s a hero’s role.
My
just-published story Guardian Angel [
http://bobswriting.com/guradian.html
] has a very different hero. She is an angel, but one who has never been a
human, so needs to live a few human lives in order to understand us. This
means, she needs to experience suffering and joy, hate and love, all the many
facets of being a person on Earth. She chose a life to give her maximum
opportunity for learning. Her arrival was in 1850, so she decided to be born
into an Aboriginal family in New South Wales, what is now Australia.
All
readers but one so far have loved the story. The one exception is a friend who
rejects paranormal phenomena like angels and telepathy and stuff. Well, this is
to publicly let him know, there is interesting suggestive evidence for the
existence of angels -- people who no longer need to be born into a body because
they have learned the ultimate lesson of unconditional love for all living
beings. Many people are sure there are guardian angels, because of personal
experiences they can interpret in no other way. For example, I have a friend
who was once driving on a narrow, winding road, alone in her car. Without
warning, she heard a male voice shout, “Pull over!” In automatic response, she
wrenched at the steering wheel -- and a speeding car coming the other way
rushed through the space she’d just vacated.
OK,
what should a hero be like? My best model is the typical Dick Francis
character. The hero should be sufficiently like you and me to enable us to make
an identification (“Yes, I could be that person”), but through a series of
natural-seeming steps, should become larger than life. We as readers should
come to deeply care for the hero, compelling us to read on.
Having
re-read my little essay, I’ve realized something. If my definition is right,
many stories don’t have heroes, but only protagonists: people the story is
about. These are the books we read and forget.
Bio
Dr
Bob Rich is an Australian storyteller with 16.5 published books, 5 of them
award-winners. He has so far retired from 5 different occupations, but is still
a writer, editor, environmental campaigner and, above all, professional
grandfather. All the kids on this planet qualify as his grandchildren, so if
you have a miniperson in your life, Bob sends a hug. Because he cares for kids,
everything he does, including his writing, is aimed at saving a future for
them, and a future worth surviving in.BUY LINKS
http://bobswriting.com/ascending.html
https://bobswriting.com/guardian.html
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6989862-sleeper-awake
You can contact Bob at these web
sites
Blog
https://bobrich18.wordpress.comWriting site http://bobswriting.com
Psychology site http://anxietyanddepression-help.com
Conservation site http://mudsmith.net
Don't forget to leave a comment for one of those free books.
Thank you for having me here, Beverley.
ReplyDeleteI will answer every comment posted.
Because my monthly newsletter is due on the 1st of July, I will allow comments for a month, so my subscribers have a chance to visit, but then I will be happy to send free e-books to three randomly selected commenters.
Please look around my blog and web sites, and have a good life.
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Bob
...and the permalink for this post is https://beverleybateman.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/heroes-or-protagonists-with-dr-bob-rich.html
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Thanks,
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Hi Beverly and Dr. Bob Rich. Great interview Beverly and I was one of Bob's reader who enjoyed reading Guardian Angel. A truly amazing story.
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ReplyDeleteGreat interview, Bob and Beverley. I enjoyed your interesting take on heroes - and your story of the paranormal sounds intriguing. Wishing you all the best!
ReplyDeleteHi Helena. Thank you for the compliments. It has occurred to me that a jet plane would be paranormal to Julius Caesar. Or think of a simple thing like a ballpoint pen. What magic! A quill that never needs sharpening, and doesn't need to be dipped in ink. Perhaps there is a demon inside?
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The future would be far less without you Bob :)
ReplyDeleteAw Carolyn, you fog up my glasses.
ReplyDeleteSocrates said, "Seem the man you wish to be." Maybe I am just a good actor?
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Ana and PayliTuzu, if you are still following this discussion, please contact me bob at bobswriting dot com
ReplyDeleteI am so glad that you are featuring Dr. Bob's work! To change the world! And right now it needs it!
ReplyDeleteThat's kind of you, Carolyn. I keep booking a ticket to a better reality, but the flight is overbooked.
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Thank you, dear Unknown. However, the language is Unknown to me. Perhaps you would be kind enough to provide a translation?
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Um... what is this in English, please?
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